Deconstruction of a Comment Box Reply - Emergent Style
In response to my post Steve Rowe said the following: (I have divided it up into section to make it easier to follow)
Introduction: “Look I loved the show but let’s not idealize it. Todd and co. were excellent advocates for traditional liturgical reformation Christianity and they will be missed and KFUO appears to have treated them extremely shabbily.”
1. “That being said their one sided defense of the most narrow and reactionary elements in the “Creation Science” undermined their witness to a lot thoughtful non-christens,”
2. “they had an annoying habit caricaturizing Armenian and dispensational doctrine during there “Evangelical Proof Text” segments and likely turned off a lot of conventional evangelicals who would otherwise have be sympathetic to the more liturgical approach to worship advocated by the LCMS.”
3. “Most damming as far as I am concerned they allowed John Warwick Montgomery make the most outrageous statements about Islam without comment or challenge gleefully replaying them during there “sound bite of the week” segment.”
4. “In short Issues Ect represented the best and the worst of the LCMS: intelligent, orthodox and cherishing tradition but also clannish, painfully conservative and I am afraid sometime intolerant.”
Conclusion: “Lets pray that Todd and Jeff land on their feet (I am sure they will they are talented men) and what ever show replaces them keeps the intelligent confessional Lutheran core of the old show but also open itself up more to the best of the larger christen community.”
Here is an explanation of CGM / emergent argumentation:
First, I’ll say something nice in an effort to make you comfortable, and try to establish a common bond where we both know none exists.
Next, I’ll launch into my criticism of orthodox Christianity, and make three points from my Emergent Playbook.
Lastly, I will conclude my remarks with a left handed compliment of sorts, just to show you that I am not a bad guy.
I will address his points when I have more time, but I just wanted to point out that I have seen this type of argument before, and all it amounts to is kicking someone when they are down. Not a very Christian response if you ask me.
Folks, the Warrenites, the Emergents, and the Academy are all aligned against orthodox Christianity. They are attacking the faith delivered once for all to the saints at the points of the trustworthiness of Scripture, the ecclesiology of the church, and the exclusivity of the Gospel. They will not stop.
The removal of Issues Etc is just one example of what happens when people sit idly by and do not work actively to defend the faith. Responses like this one are typical of those on the left, and it is high time that the true believers wake up to their methods. Silence is not an option.
April 2, 2008 at 3:47 pm
First of all, I must refute the suggestion that Todd ever attacked anyone. He led discussions, pointed out differences and in some cases outlined definite departures from orthodoxy. Secondly, John Warwick Montgomery is brilliant and if one is informed, one will realize that Walid Shoefit himself a former Islamic terrorist says that America has been woefully tricked into believing Islam is a peaceful religion. While there may be peaceful Muslims living in your neighborhood, this does not represent the true Islam faith which is one of destruction and death. Their whole focus is ridding the world of all infidels both Christian and Jewish so that their Mahdi (a messiah) can return. If you do not know about Mahdi, you do not know Islam. Finally, it must be said that Todd is not only talented, but a faithful follower to the doctrine of the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod and does not need to apologize for that. But if the LCMS should fall, Todd would still adhere to the same doctrine by any other name which would still be that of Christian.